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« on: January 15, 2010, 06:35:32 PM »

Here's a few others that I currently have

Back when I decided to try to do a SOHC 750 for each of the years it was produced. It became apparent real quick that the 1969 and 1970  sandcasts were made of unobtanium and were priced to the limit of the collector market. So I settled on 1971 to 1978 versions. Being backward I started with a 1978 F model.



Then I started a 1972 K2


Then a 1973 K3 (here its wearing a K4 tank - similar but not quite the same)


I did do a K4 engine - but he chassis isn't done...yeah  know.


Here is a shot of a few of the SOHCs I have. This is one group I broke down for ease of storage. Its much easier to store them apart than together. There is probably double that amount - seriously I really don't know the total number. Never counted 'em.


The idea was to get as many of he rolling chassis done as possible then do all the engines at the same time. The SOHC 750 is one of the only bikes built that looks almost identical year to year, but almost everything is changed each year. While hunting year specific parts I decided to take a break from the restos and have a bit of fun. That's where the 1979-1982 DOHCs came in. I didn't mind altering them an having a bit of fun with them.

The 900 - in another thread, old news


A 1984 FJ1100 I've had for many years


A 1975 GT750 that I did several years ago and still have (there is another to be done sometime)


And the 1982 SC that is supposed to be this year's project.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2010, 06:46:31 PM »

Nice collection of bikes and projects, I don't know how you find time for all those projects going at once.

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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2010, 07:30:08 PM »

Very nice.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2010, 07:58:57 PM »

 thumb I wish I had the patience and skills for that.  Excellent.
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« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2010, 08:12:23 AM »

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I wish I had the patience and skills for that.

Wish I had the money for 1/3 of that.  The other thought that comes to mind is that you must be a library of knowledge on these bikes.  I remember a guy on the Barrett Jackson auto auction stating that one of the biggest challenges for classic car restoration is that the designers and their knowledge are dying, and they generally kept poor records.  Not suggesting you are dying of course, but hopefully in this Information Age, we can do a better job for the next generation.

Your dark colored Charger has a fluid leak (the old 383 front cam seal demon?).  Tell us more about those beautiful cages you've got.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2010, 07:25:09 PM »

Nah that's no leak from the Charger that was from a 440 that was coming apart in that area a few hours before. The bare block is visible behind the Virago's mirror. The Charger spent the day in the sun  while a core 440 came apart.

There are 7 Mopars in there;

1968 Dart GTS 383 auto 3.23. It needs a total resto. It will go 440 when done. The numbers matching 383 will reside under a bench.

1969 Super Bee, originally 383 auto 3.23 bench seat/column shift. I've had probably 25-30 hi-po Mopars over the years and the Bee is the only column shift/ bench seat I've ever had. So it'll stay like that. I do have a warmed 440 ready to go into it.

1969 road runner coupe 383 4 speed 3.23. Needs total resto. Will be 440 when on the road again.

1969 road runner hardtop. 496 (4.15 crank in a 440) 6bbl (6pack in Dodge vernacular), 4 speed 3.91.  4.15 stroke crank, polished stock rods, Ross lightweight pistons. Ported 452 heads, 2.14 intake 1.81 exhaust, gasket matched 6bbl intake and headers. Still running the vacuum  secondarys in reworked Holleys.

1969 Charger R/T 440 auto 3.55. Warmed over 440, quicky resto to get it on the road as a putt putt. 9.75:1 heavy as lead TRW slugs on 6bbl rods, ported 452 heads 2.14 intake, stock 1.74 exhaust, opened up stock intake (not for 1969) and exhaust manifolds, reworked Thermoquad for that huge kick in the a$$ when the manhole sized secondarys open up.

1971 'cuda hardtop 383 auto 3.23. Needs total resto

1971 'cuda convertible 383 auto 3.55. Needs total resto. Will be a 472 hemi when it hits the road again.

And the oddball in the group. A 1969 Wildcat convertible. 430 auto 3.08. Was my father's who bought it new and was passed to me when he passed on.

A couple shots taken a few years ago.





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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 03:13:22 PM »

Wow, I mean wow. I'll take a fraction of the collection of bikes and be happy. Love the 78 F, cb900, and fj1110. 
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« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 04:39:07 PM »

Beautiful Mopar collection, as well.  I'm a bowtie guy, but the big door chargers are good looking cars, no doubt.
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« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 06:04:54 PM »

Beautiful Mopar collection, as well.  I'm a bowtie guy, but the big door chargers are good looking cars, no doubt.
Ditto....A yenko 427 Nova with a T-10 would rock my world, and smoke any stock Modog.
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« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 06:30:18 PM »

 Are you trying to give Jay Leno a run for his $ for a bike and car  collection? super I lusted after Road Runners back in the 70's.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2010, 09:06:35 AM »

 drooler drooler drooler hot thumb
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2010, 09:54:34 AM »

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Ditto....A yenko 427 Nova with a T-10 would rock my world, and smoke any stock Modog.

Like most of these cars steeped in history, I would say that would depend on day, time, magazine reporter's driving ability (at the time) and track conditions. There were only 37 (guesstimates) L72 Yenko Novas produced in 1969. Don Yenko pulled the plug on producing them himself as product liability issues were breathing down his neck. So with only 37 made tests and reports of them are scarce. But stock that is as delivered by Don Yenko - not the factory - which would raise issues with purists and the word stock to begin with the aftermarket 4.10:1 (as opposed to Chev's 4.11:1) gears in the GM 12 bolt and on the bias ply tires, the Yenko Nova would pound out 13:00-13:15s smoking the entire strip. That's the stock times for these cars. That is the same times for a 1969 hemi road runner or hemi Super Bee with a 4.10 rear and either the 833 4 speed or 727 auto with the stock tires, again smoking the length of the entire strip. Trap speeds right around 106-109mph were nearly identical.
With slicks and a few tweaks (no longer stock) the Nova could easily crank off 11.05s or so. The 1968 LO23 Darts and BO23 Barracudas as delivered from the Hurst factory but sold through Chrysler head office would crank of 10.3-10.5s as delivered.
So what is stock? Don Yenko was a dealer who made his own cars and sold them through his dealership. Norm Kraus of Mr. Norms fame ran Grand Spaulding Dodge and did the same thing with all his cars. The best comparison to the L72 Nova would be his 440 GSS Darts. He would made any level of 440 Dart you wanted (could afford)  in 1968 and again in 1969. This would be the equivalent of the Yenko product and a lot of his were legitimate 10 second street cars, as delivered and "stock". And he cranked off a lot more than 37 of his product.
This isn't a pissing contest at all, just that there really no absolutes in any mass-produced vehicle comparison. Driver ability made up for a ton of horsepressure and a lot of 340s and LT1 350s with a halfway decent driver kicked a lot of sand in 440's, hemi's, 427's, 396's, 390's, 429's faces. I lived through these times and watched the above happen time and time again. A hotshot with all the latest go-fast goodies shut down by a stock motored vehicle with a better driver.
Ronnie Sox could get a stock 1969 6bbl road runner to crank off 12.9s @111 on the street tires. The next two magazine editors, using the exact same car, couldn't get that time - even putting slicks on the car. While there has always been reports of tweaked cars coming from the factorys to get some fat ink in advertising, the same car, tweaked or not,failing to get the same times as Ronnie shows driving ability to be the biggest factor. Look at the early 80s when the liter bikes came into play. It was always PeeWee Gleason who the factory used to pilot their bikes to 1/4 mile times no mere mortal could reach. Normal magazine editiors would always be at least a 1/2 second or so slower.
 Again no pissing contest - just all of them had shining examples, and all of them had dogs too. smiler

*EDIT* - Just remembered. In 1967 my next door neighbor had a factory L88 4 speed 'vette. I'd love to have that in a heartbeat - even moreso than 1 of the 2...or is it really 3 ZL1 'vettes.

*EDIT #2* - got nostalgic and surfed for '67 L88s. Found a picture of one identical to his. And with only 20 made in 1967, there is a chance this may have been his?????? He sold it to buy a 1970 454 and kicked his rear for years.


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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2010, 01:38:17 PM »

Fantastic collection!  claps
I love your Mopars. I was raised on them, my dad worked for Chrysler and was always bringing something new home (often pre-production). If I only I could have driven in the '60's and early '70's!! I tried to make up for it later, couldn't afford muscle, but plenty of Darts, Valiants, Furys, Polaras and a '63 Imperial that was one of only 1500 built.
Here I am with something that wandered into our drive way, way back.  drooler

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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 05:14:28 PM »

Dang, you're right in front of the door scallops. Did there happen to be a small chrome emblem between those two scallops? Not that it really matters - even a 440 4bbl winged wonder is a very fine sight. smiler

4 gear or auto?
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Dang, you're right in front of the door scallops. Did there happen to be a small chrome emblem between those two scallops? Not that it really matters - even a 440 4bbl winged wonder is a very fine sight. smiler

4 gear or auto?
Hmmmm, I must have been about 7 let me think.....
Naw, it isn't there.  happy1 All remember is looking up at that big wing and thinking...HOLY CRAP!!!
I remember the pre-production Omni/Horizon that was completely badged as a VW Rabbit. Pulling up at a light and the guys in the car next to us begging to know what it really was.
I remember all the times my dad got pulled over running up the police packages he used to order (back when you ordered JUST what you wanted). The night my mom, sister and I spent scared in an Ohio rest stop when some cop hauled him off to get a amount for his ticket (seems they based on how far way you lived and what it would cost you to come back and fight it).
When I could finally drive there was his New Yorker Brougham I took into a bush.  shog
Not always the coolest cars but I've always been addicted.  naughty
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2010, 06:49:47 PM »

Sweet - with only 503 Daytonas made, you certainly didn't see yourself on every corner.

My first hi-po Mopar. 1968 runner, originally 383 4 gear 3.23 rear. The local junkyard got a wrecked A12 Bee in one Friday. I knew all the guys at the yard so a 24 of beer and a 40 pounder of Captain Rowdy they gave me the yard mule to have at the Bee. Took the 440 six pack, 833 and 4:10 Dana out and put them in the runner. A Racer Brown solid lifter, home ported heads, and a set of Hooker headers...lot of fun in that rig.



One of my favorites from wayback - a 1 of 1 car. 1968 Coronet R/T 426 hemi 4-speed ragtop. The factory made 9 Coronet R/T hemi ragtops that year, 8 727s and the one 833 4 gear. Used to put the whitewalls with wheel discs on it for the Q ship look in luring in victims. Getting all nostalgic here. Hap1

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Hmmmm, I must have been about 7 let me think.....
Naw, it isn't there.  happy1 All remember is looking up at that big wing and thinking...HOLY CRAP!!!
I remember the pre-production Omni/Horizon that was completely badged as a VW Rabbit. Pulling up at a light and the guys in the car next to us begging to know what it really was.
I remember all the times my dad got pulled over running up the police packages he used to order (back when you ordered JUST what you wanted). The night my mom, sister and I spent scared in an Ohio rest stop when some cop hauled him off to get a amount for his ticket (seems they based on how far way you lived and what it would cost you to come back and fight it).
When I could finally drive there was his New Yorker Brougham I took into a bush.  shog
Not always the coolest cars but I've always been addicted.  naughty

Wow -I should have read through all that more carefully the fist time. Well you may have been a bit late to the parade, but it sure sounds like you knew the right people! laugh I vividly remember reading about the latest exploits of Tom Hoover, Ted Spehar and the black ops gang of Highland Park back in the day. Some of the wild combos that were slated to come off the line but wound up getting killed when the axe of 1971 started to fall. 1972 was a real wake up call.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2010, 11:09:48 AM »

Wow great thread and even greater collection.
One day I hope to be able to do something similar.
I love my cars just as much as my bikes, but it is so much more practical to have 10 bikes than 10 cars!
Working on adding a second bike to my collection here come tax return time, but for now 1 car does it for me. I hardly drive my Transam as it is.
How do you feel about the modern muscle (ie. new Challenger) compared to the old beauties? I'm an Fbody guy myself, and aside from 67-69 my favorite era is 98-02 and now the 5th gen.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2010, 11:23:09 AM »

Here is a car I miss very very much. My fathers old 1974 Corvette with a 454 bored .030, Hooker long tubes, side pipes, Demon carb, pretty mild but at the same time was a screamer.
I LOVED that machine, the sound it made with them huge side pipes was unreal. Even more so when you took the baffles out!
Unfortunately my dad sold her about a year or so ago to replace it with a newer Vette..2006 C6 with 6 speed, have since modded her with Corsa catback and Vararam intake. I'm trying to pressure him into long tubes but he won't bite just yet.

The Camaro on the right was MY first baby, unfortunately it looked and sounder faster than it was, as it only had a puny 3.8.
Had her for about a year until I picked up my current love - 2000 Transam with LS1/T56. I have since thrown on QTP long tubes, LS6 intake manifold, C6 wheels with some sticky Kuhmos, and some other basic stuff.
Here is a pretty terrible picture of my Nighthawk posing behind the other toys..looking back at this picture makes me laugh at the shape my Hawk used to be in..I really need to snap some new ones when it gets nice out.
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2010, 12:29:28 PM »

...2006 C6 with 6 speed, have since modded her with Corsa catback and Vararam intake. I'm trying to pressure him into long tubes but he won't bite just yet.

 smiler Try pushing a little harder. There must be a noticeable improvement in grunt with just the intake and pipes?

Here is a car I miss very very much. My fathers old 1974 Corvette with a 454 bored .030, Hooker long tubes, side pipes, Demon carb, pretty mild but at the same time was a screamer.

Funny how not all the so called smoggers acted like whipped dogs huh? There were still some ponies in the corral if you looked in the right places. The 1973 SD Trans Am dispelled any myth about performance being dead. All she needed was a good set of headers and free flowing pipes and it was 1969 all over again.

....2000 Transam with LS1/T56. I have since thrown on QTP long tubes, LS6 intake manifold, C6 wheels with some sticky Kuhmos, and some other basic stuff.

Guess it must work okay, huh? laugh That's it poking its rear out of the garage?

Here is a pretty terrible picture of my Nighthawk posing behind the other toys..looking back at this picture makes me laugh at the shape my Hawk used to be in..I really need to snap some new ones when it gets nice out.


ROFL! Even the 650s had trouble keeping their sidecases. If you stumble across a 1982/83 750 left hand case - gimme a holler will ya? I'm held up on my project waiting on a case.

Oh yeah - nice rides.  smiler
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2010, 12:47:43 PM »

Yep thats my Transam poking its butt out the garage beside the Vette.
I did notice a really nice improvement on the butt dyno with the exhaust, and then with the Vararam intake it REALLY pulls on the highway. Its a ram air like setup, and the big inatake is right in the grill sucking in all the cool air. He really needs longtubes to turn that Vette into a whole nother animal..and a cam. Haha.
Longtubes on LSx motors are proven to be good for 20-30 horsies at the wheels. I'm running longtubes with no cats and bullet mufflers on the Transam, dumped well before the rear axle. You can't hear the Corvette if mine is idling beside it.
As for the side covers I actually have mine for my bike, but they have a broken tab or two, and are in sorta rough shape. I've been meaning to try and fix them or sell them and buy some better ones.
I wish there was some sort of aftermarket cover available without having to make one. I'm sure you could rig up something pretty trick to go there.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2010, 03:43:20 PM »

The factorys do quite a good job in the intake and exhaust department, given that they have to seal in all kinds of weather and temperature variation, acceptable noise levels and most importantly ease of assembly at the factory. And pass the warranty period! The aftermarket sates the pure power urge. Stock manifolds, both intake and exhaust, always hide a lot of ponies from the pavement. Give the old fellow a $40 gift certificate toward the JBAs. That'll make him move. smiler 30 ponies is 30 ponies.

I've seen quite a few of 650 covers on eGouge lately and not for too dear the coin. Check them out.

Just my luck to want to do a cursed '82-'83 750. mad1
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2010, 01:04:07 PM »


Just my luck to want to do a cursed '82-'83 750. mad1
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they are rare on E-bay, and when they are there there is always a crack in them by the forward peg, as that area gets twisted if its not taken off properly. There were a couple on there a month or so ago. Try rummaging through a motorcycle scrap yards plastics/fairing piles. Even if you find one with broken tabs, they can be re-made.
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2010, 06:51:26 PM »


they are rare on E-bay, and when they are there there is always a crack in them by the forward peg, as that area gets twisted if its not taken off properly. There were a couple on there a month or so ago. Try rummaging through a motorcycle scrap yards plastics/fairing piles. Even if you find one with broken tabs, they can be re-made.

I've been on eBay every day for the last month anyway searching every different combo of names I can think of. The 1984 up are common enough - but a real bear for the 1982/83s. Cracked I don't care about. Even a broken peg doesn't fizz me as long as the broken part is on hand.
I've tried all the bike breakers I knew of and some that guys have sent me links/emails to. All swings and misses so far.
Anyone got a left hand side, I will make a good offer for it.
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